Sunday, April 13, 2008

Analysis of Obama Pennsylvania Religion and Guns Comments.

MUNCIE, Indiana (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama on Saturday tried to clarify what he meant when he said some small-town Pennsylvanians are "bitter" people who "cling to guns and religion."

TPJ: Here are the exact comments, "You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama, an Illinois senator, said.

"And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," he said.

TPJ: Obama admitted that his words were poorly chosen, "I didn't say it as well as I should have," Obama admitted in Muncie, Indiana, on Saturday, the day after he first defended his comments, "because the truth is that these traditions that are passed on from generation to generation -- those are important." TPJ: I think using "cling" wasn't the right word to use, It was poorly chosen. I think the word that he was looking for was something along the lines of "rely." And who isn't bitter about the economy and other issues right now in America? Here is a clip of
Obama clarifying what he meant.
Let me say this, Obama's comments aren't that far from the truth and that isn't necessarily bad. I live in a rural area of Colorado and know plenty of people who have guns and a strong faith in religion. Indeed people do rely upon what they know in troubling times. We take faith in our religions/spirituality and a lot of gun owners that I know out here correctly defend their right to own guns. I honestly do not think that Obama is against guns and certainly not against religion, he's very religious himself after all.

And many of those gun owners are rightly concerned about the over-reaching power of the federal government and are ready to defend themselves against anyone attempting to take away their freedoms. I think that a lot of people (gun owners or not) are suspicious of the federal government these days. And in economic hard times people are more worried about their physical security and ready to defend themselves against crime that often goes up during financially unstable days.

Plus, many people rely upon their guns in a depressed economy for extra food. I know plenty of folks who hunt deer out here to help keep food costs down given the economy over the last few years. You can keep and store deer meat for long periods of time and it's definitely cheaper than buying beef.

As for the anti-immigrant comment, many people somewhat rightly blame illegal immigrants for a shrinking job pool and this is a historical pattern. There has always be tension over jobs whenever America has experienced a wave of immigration. It doesn't mean that people are wrong or bad to be concerned, it just means that people always try to find reasons behind why they are experiencing hard times. It's not a class thing, people of all economic levels look to familiar beliefs and values when faced with an uncertain future.

And all of us are suspicious of people who aren't like us from time to time. It's human nature to think this way. I don't think that Obama was trying to say that it is only small town Americans who feel this way nor that ALL of small town Americans feel this way.

This elitist label is going to far in my opinion. If he is an elitist then why is he the populist candidate? Ninety percent of his donations are coming from average, working class Americans. It's not the big donors giving the $10, $20 donations. Also, if he is an elitist then how is Hillary not an elitist with her hundreds of millions of dollars who has been living in a bubble world since being First Lady? And John McCain isn't your average person either, he is also worth a ton of money and has been entrenched in the club-like Senate for decades.

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8 comments:

Shaw Kenawe said...

Obama will be fine. He's telling the truth.

And damn Hillary for giving McCain the "elitist" meme.

The Clintons earned $109 million last year; John McCain owns 8 houses--and they call Barack an elitist?

Neither of them had to overcome anything like Obama did to get where he is.

Are the American people too stupid to see that? I hope not. Because the facts are in front of their eyes.



Hillary has really been a big disappointment.

Shaw Kenawe said...

I forgot to leave you this link:

Read it:

http://tinyurl.com/4n8v5p

Tom said...

I think we have to respect the points of view of the people Obama spoke of as being reasonable and rationally held, not as indicators of disfunction.

I worry mightily that Obama is beginning to come apart and the disaster of a third Bush term [in the name of McCain] is increasingly likely.

But your thoughts and the viddy do help. Still, I wish Obama would talk just about his mistake rather than toss in jabs at McCain and Clinton. McCain and Clinton ARE out of touch, but that doesn't mean that Obama, in his own way, isn't a bit out of touch, too.

T&A said...

Tom: "I think we have to respect the points of view of the people Obama spoke of as being reasonable and rationally held, not as indicators of disfunction."

Sorry, but I completely disagree with you. There is nothing rational or reasonable in believing that the stories of a text that was written thousands of years ago is the final word in the 21st century. There is nothing rational or reasonable about being fearful of immigrants that take jobs that no American would stoop to take.

Obama spoke the truth, and the truth hurts.

James said...

Shaw:

Yeah I think that he'll weather the storm.

John McCain has EIGHT HOUSES?!!! Wow. Yep, just your average Joe.

Tom:

Some Christian beliefs I do have a hard time with but I understand why people rely on them in difficult times.

I'm glad that you appreciated my points raised.

T&A:

I think this flap will mostly just swing voters that were looking for an excuse not to vote for Obama to begin with.

Riverwolf said...

Yeah, this isn't really fair. Obama's right, of course, just a poor choice of words. The media seems to be blowing this way out of proportion, making it something that it isn't. Clinton and McCain certainly can't claim to be anything other than "elite" themselves--but it would seem the media have an obligation to look beyond simply repeating the "party line" to whether there's any substance to Obama's statement (which there is). Media obligations? I might as well believe in unicorns!

James said...

Riverwolf:

yeah it is laughable that you don't have to be some kind of elitist to run for president. It's fucked up but that's how it seems to work.

Millionaires are the only one who have a shot.

Jenny said...

I guess we’ll see. And there’s something else too – it’s going to happen again. Because Barack Obama is too smart not to keep speaking his mind with uncommon eloquence about every issue under the sun. Whether he survives these assaults will not be a test of Barack Obama. It will be a test of the basic political competency of the American people.
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