Friday, November 16, 2007

Here We Go Again. The So-Called, "War on Christmas"

Even though Colorado is becoming more liberal and is becoming very purple and quite independent (a third Democrat, a third Republican and a third Independent), the area of the state that I live in is quite Red/Republican. I live near the college town of Fort Collins which has traditionally been more open-minded and left leaning. Now it is very left leaning and it usually swings the county that I live in to the Democrats.

I don't live more then 20 minutes from Fort Collins but my city couldn't be further from the politics of Fort Collins. We are a retirement community who seem to all be curmudgeon right wingers. We have a forum in the local paper for people to call into and sound off on current events, gripes and suggestions. Usually the extent of these peoples' "problems" and stress amounts to complaining about people who don't keep their lawn green enough. However, this time of year they ramp up their war machine to fight for their time honored tradition of discriminating against anyone who isn't Christian.

So here's the deal. The city of Fort Collins has decided to have a holiday celebration instead of one centered only upon the Christian holiday of Christmas. They have decided to put up a tree and decorate it but leave the angel off the top of the tree and because of that decision you'd think the city was admitting to literally crucifying Christians. Everyone in our city is up in arms that the secularists are destroying Christmas and some have even declared their efforts to be inclusive is threatening our sovereignty as a country!!! (Huh?). The guy who claimed that also implied that since he was a veteran then he can demand whatever he wants and that his opinion is more important to that of others. He asks what the secular progressives have ever done for this country. Yeah, because there couldn't have possibly been any secularists and/or Atheists in the military. And so those of us who haven't been in war don't have the same rights as those who have?? I see. As many of you know there is no rationalizing with these people. I've tried many, many times.

I've tried to explain to them what it is like being a minority and the feeling of constantly having your beliefs, rights and view trampled upon. I tell them, "How would you feel if you lived in a predominately Muslim country that didn't celebrate Christmas and instead put up Islamic symbols during Islamic holidays on government property. And wouldn't that make you feel discriminated against and hurt?" Usually the response I get is something like this, "Well I don't live in that kind of theoretical country, I live in America and goddamn proud of it!! And if you don't like that America is Christian then maybe you should leave." Well, after many abrasions to my head from slamming it into the nearest wall after such statements I've ceased asking the question to them altogether.

So anyway, back to the situation at hand in Fort Collins. Well, yesterday the Sheriff of the city announced that he is going to basically flip off the city and anyone who isn't Christian by putting up a Christmas tree topped with a huge angel on the front lawn of the Sheriff's office. So I guess now he's only the Sheriff for Christians. The sheriff stated:

“I just wanted to show that there are people with some common sense in our community, and that we do celebrate our heritage (GOI: You mean your heritage Sheriff),” Alderden said Wednesday, an hour after sending out an e-mail newsletter that lambasts the ACLU and political liberals for trying to secularize holiday displays.

“While the secular progressives have tried to take Christ out of Christmas, (GOI: I don't want to take Christ out of Christmas, I want to take Christ out of my government!! Two very different things but I guess asking these wackos to understand nuance is too much) supported and bolstered by the ACLU, which is waging its own Jihad against Christianity, (GOI: So now we secularists are now being compared to radical Islamic Jihadists?)” Alderden wrote in his Bulls-eye newsletter, “the majority of Americans living in Larimer County and Fort Collins recognize and value our Christian heritage.”

(GOI: I guess it would be asking too much to value the other heritages that have developed around here for decades such as the the Japanese Buddhist community who's ancestors came here at the turn of the last century to work the fields around here and build the railroad. The Sheriff says that he'd be willing to include a Jewish Menorah but I doubt he'd allow Pagans to display their Winter Solstice symbols and Buddha statues for Bodhi Day which merely celebrates the impact that the Buddha had upon philosophy and the world in general. Imagine though if you will what would happen if I came forward to say that I want to include a Buddha statue in the mix. There would probably be riots including images of me being beaten with a flood of crosses or maybe more apropos, stoned. See this is the problem. When you start allowing religion into the public arena then you have to include symbols of allll beliefs that have holidays around this time of year, which means a crowded government building lawn. Just like prayer in school, which religious traditions prayer do we use and if it's Christian then which Christian prayer? Would the Evangelicals be o.k. with a Mormon or Catholic prayer?

What he (the sheriff) is doing could be illegal and so who is going to arrest the Sheriff? I use to think these people were clueless but now I know better, they know exactly what they are doing.

That concept, the separation of church and state, is fairly new, Alderden wrote in his newsletter. It was created by the U.S. Supreme Court and wasn’t the intention of those who crafted the Constitution, he wrote (GOI: I see. Despite a large group of them being Deists which is not Christian, AND despite American being founded upon the idea of religious freedom because of leaving a country that forced one religion down everyones' throats!!!!!!!!).

“Why in America, a country founded on Judaic Christian values, would we exclude symbols of faith from the public square?” Alderden wrote. “Why not display a Nativity scene?”

GOI: I thought that I would include some of the comments from people regarding this issue that have been printed in the local paper over the last few days:

"Good for the Sheriff, who is going to take a stand with his Christmas trees on the spineless leaders in Fort Collins who want to diminish Christmas (GOI: No, that's not what most of us secularists want. We want to rid the government and public square with it. No one is saying that you can't put up a living nativity scene on your front yard if you want. You can even have an actor playing Jesus stand up on your roof 24 hours a day and wave at the passing cars if you want. Just keep your fucking religion out of the government!!!). Fort Collins is being taken over by the politically correct crowd of leaders who embrace the ACLU (GOI: The horror!! An organization standing up for equal rights of all citizens!!!).

Bravo. Thanks Sheriff Alderden for standing up for what 90 percent or more of us feel about religion and Christmas. The remaining 10% of you who are non-believers, you have a very small minority, but free to retain your feelings. Let the rest of us have what we've always had, freedom for our beliefs in God and Christmas. (GOI: Oh, so I see. YOU have the right to freedom of religion but not the rest of us. Thank-you for so graciously allowing me to have different feelings as long as they don't upset you).

And let's not forget Festivus!!

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10 comments:

Poodles said...

It makes my head hurt.

Brent said...

I'm telling you, we are trying to turn into a theocracy for the Christian religion.

Parson said...

I think the "founding fathers" idea of religious freedom, was really the just the freedom to practice the form of christianity you choose. That seems to be what the conservatives and right wing really want. "You can practice any religion you want as long as it's christian." It's just plain pitiful. I find it interesting the christians are crying about putting up a "christmas tree", I doubt Christ would want people worrying about some stupid tree. I think he would be more interested in the "peace on earth and good will towards man" parts of the holiday season.

T&A said...

I hope a secularist lights that fucking tree on fire! :P

T&A said...

Or even better, one of the bulbs in the angel shorts out and causes an electrical fire! NOW THAT would be funny, and ironic to boot!

fashiongirl said...

You've got some wacky neighbors there dude. Time to pack you shit and move to Babylon by the Bay. Atheists are always welcomed, hell everyone is even the fundies.

James said...

Poodles:

Me too. It's like trying to talk sense into a crazy person.

Brent:

You are so right and It scares me how many people are find with that.

Parson:

"You can practice any religion you want as long as it's christian."

So true. It reminds me of those bumper stickers that say, "Jesus loves you whether you like it or not." Thanks for visiting and I hope to see more of you around here. I like your insights.

T&A:

Hah!! You and me both man. I feel like putting up a Christmas tree in our front yard with a giant, brightly lit Flying Spaghetti Monster on the top. As well as a neon sign that says, "Happy Pagan Tree Celebration."

Fashion Girl:

I think about moving a lot but mostly I want to stay and fight to cancel out some of their influence here. I refuse to let them take over my beloved state.

Anonymous said...

FOUR WORDS: "ONE NATION UNDER GOD."

Love it or leave it. Respect it, honor, follow it or go to a 3rd World Country where you will not have your feelings hurt.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD! UNDER GOD! (Not Buddah, Not Joseph Smith...)

James said...

Anonymous:

First of all, The "God" part of "One nation under God" wasn't added until the 1950's. It was added by Congress at the height of the cold war. It was an absurd meaningless resolution that tried to link patriotism with a religious belief in "God."

If the founding fathers intended this country to be under "God" then why did they allow for freedom of religion at all? And by telling me that I have to accept it or leave the country you are saying that the founding fathers were wrong in allowing my freedom to choose which religion (or none) that I want.

If this is a Christian nation and no other beliefs are to be tolerated then why does it say in Article VI of the Constitution that there shall be no religious test for seeking public office? Under your claims, all candidates for public office must believe in "God." That is not backed up by the Constitution.

Also, the Constitution says in the very first amendment that, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

This means that America shall not establish one religion as the only religion to believe in. NOR, establish a law prohibiting the practice of your Christian beliefs.

See, it's a win-win. There is this firewall giving balance to both sides to protect both religion and government from each other. Without this firewall religion wouldn't have the protection it does today (including your beliefs that I so strongly disagree with).

T&A said...

Anonymous: Would you tell jefferson or Washington to love it or leave it? Contrary to what you fundies think, most of our founding fathers were DEIST not Christians! I doubt they'd agree with you.