Friday, September 15, 2006

President Torture Strikes Again

DAVID GREGORY: Mr. President, critics of your proposed bill on interrogation rules say there's another important test. These critics include John McCain, who you've mentioned several times this morning.

And that test is this: If a CIA officer, paramilitary or special operations soldier from the United States were captured in Iran or North Korea and they were roughed up and those governments said, "Well, they were interrogated in accordance with our interpretation of the Geneva Conventions," and then they were put on trial and they were convicted based on secret evidence that they were not able to see, how would you react to that as commander in chief?

BUSH: My reaction is, is that if the nations such as those you name adopted the standards within the Detainee Detention Act, the world would be better. That's my reaction.

GOI: WHAT?!!!!!! I hope he didn't realize what he just said there but I have a sinking, nauseating feeling that he did.

This is the same guy who said the following in an interview with Matt Lauer of the "Today" show:

Matt Lauer: And yet you admitted that there were these CIA secret facilities. OK?

President Bush: So what? Why is that not within the law?

Matt Lauer: The head of Amnesty International says secret sites are against international law.

President Bush: Well, we just disagree with him.

From Human Rights Watch:

International human rights treaties such as the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR)3 and the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment4 govern individual rights to liberty, to a fair trial, and to be free from torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment. European governments are also bound by similar provisions in the European Convention on Human Rights.5 The Geneva Conventions address the detention, treatment and trial of prisoners of war and civilians during armed conflict or military occupation.6

International human rights and humanitarian law (the laws of war) ensure that the fundamental rights of all individuals are protected at all times. When the laws of war do not apply, international human rights law still protects that person’s rights. Furthermore, certain protections are so well established, such as the prohibitions on torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment, and prolonged arbitrary detention, that they have become customary obligations that are binding legal obligations independent of specific treaty agreements.7 The domestic laws of states whose territories or nationals are implicated also apply.

GOI: And there there's this from the EU:

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Union condemned on Friday the detention of terrorism suspects by the United States in secret overseas prisons, whose existence U.S. President George Bush first acknowledged last week.


"The existence of secret detention facilities where detained persons are kept in a legal vacuum is not in conformity with international humanitarian law and international criminal law," Finnish Foreign minister Erkki Tuomioja told a news conference after the bloc's 25 ministers discussed Bush's comments.

GOI: If you crane your ear enough you can hear the Constitution being shredded.

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PTCruiser said...

I like how you have his picture right next to your pic of Zach De La Rocha with the same fist gesture, except he's all tired and looks like he's spent a lot of time talking to the Devil.

Seriously, though, I heard about the Lauer interview but I missed it. I heard Lauer ripped him a new one. Pretty surprising.

It's deploring that we're getting away with treating prisoners of war so horribly that it doesn't even come close to Geneva Convention rules.

Great post, man.

Zen Unbound said...

Bush gave his Rose Garden press conference on Constitution Day!

More than just being bumfuzzled that the president is such a dangerous nincompoop, I am woozy that he cannot, at least, explain himself a little better. America is going to need a truly great president to recover from these eight years of disasterous Bush governance.

WH said...

Nice Post -- good job of pulling together all the pieces that, in one place, really highlight the moron-in-chief's ignorance.


james said...


Oh man, you know what I'd love to see? A debate between Bush and Zack. That would be sweetness.

Yeah I was surprised by Lauer taking Bush to the wood shed too. However, with his comments and actions lately no one can stand by anymore.



Constitution Day?!! Oh that tops it all off. Yeah he was caught red handed and is now trying to pass legislation and make it retroactive to try and keep him out of, "The Hague."

You're right, It might take several president's to fix all the stuff he's smashed.


Thank-you. I hope that we can get some different leadership in Washington to stop this madman before it's too late. Increasingly, it IS getting too late.