Friday, December 02, 2005

10 U.S. Soldiers Killed by IED in Fallujah, Iraq


Breaking News:

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- A roadside bomb in Fallujah killed 10 U.S. Marines and wounded 11 others, the U.S. military said Friday in the deadliest single attack against American forces in Iraq in nearly four months. Thursday's bomb struck a patrol from Regimental Combat Team 8 of the 2nd Marine Division, the Marine Corps said.

GOI: We are only in December by two days and already we have 10 deaths. We can expect to see more of these heavy attacks in the lead up to the Dec. 15th elections.

I gotta tell you that I keep going back and forth on the issue of keeping or pulling our troops in Iraq. I'm just not comfortable with either position right now. On one hand I feel that we have to stay to keep the terrorists in check and to keep it from spreading to other countries as best we can.

However, on the other hand I feel that our occupation will be forever because their will always be terrorists willing to attack and blow themselves up to kill Americans and/or Iraqi's, Jews, Jordanians, etc.

I also feel that we need to leave at some point so that the Iraqi's will step up and take on defending their country instead of using the Americans as shields. In addition, I give some deep thought to this idea that we have created MORE terrorists by invading Iraq then we have defeated and that vicious cycle will only continue so long as we are there.

Bush Co. has gotten us into a hornets nest and now things are very complicated and we are stuck in a bad position where no one really "wins."

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4 comments:

Tom said...

Excellent thoughts, my man. You are looking at the Big Picture, in all its shades of color, not through the filter of a committed ideologue.

I hear you. I agree.

james said...

Tom:

Thanks.

I'm trying to be as honest with myself as I can on the Iraq war and other issues.

mikevotes said...

Thank you for your honesty in your position. Everybody's sniping at Bush, which I think he deserves, but very few are offering alternate plans.

I got fed up yesterday and put up my ideas on a phased withdrawal.

At some point we're going to have to get out of Iraq, and no matter when it is, there's going to be alot of violence. Does the US really expect to kill everyone in an insurgency that's still growing?

Whether we leave tomorrow or in a year, is Iraq really going to be that much more secure? Are we doing more damage staying? I don't know.

Underground Logician said...

James:

I don't question your honesty here, I question your thinking. Why do you persist in holding to such a dismal view of this war when there are wonderful accomplishments that have been made which go largely unreported by mainstream media? What is the payoff for you in this to avoid the actual good? Do you think that if enough people are miserable enough along with yourself, then Bush and "his problems" go away?

It's one thing if there is absolutely nothing good accomplished here. The absurdity of this situation is that we have made enormous progress here and it is being willfully ignored by the news. You need to bust out of this, man!

From an inductive logic standpoint, your generalizations come from such a poor and unreliable set of particulars that ANY apolitical logician would brush your conclusion aside. It looks as though you pick and choose your particulars to fit your conclusion. If you want the truth, then expand your particulars; get interview information from troops on the ground, not just the one's who are pissed at their commanders. Look for alternative news sources that don't have an ax to grind.

If you have no intention of doing so, then you are not an honest inquirer. Then I will question your honesty. Until then, I don't.