We keep hearing from the Bush administration and loyal sycophant neo-cons that American soldiers are fighting for a "noble cause" in Iraq. However, we never hear these people signing up to go and fight in Iraq for this "noble cause."
What was is the "noble cause?" Spreading democracy? Well, you can not force democracy onto people and it appears in Iraq that their constitution is going to curb women's rights. Also, Islam will play a major role in the structure of this government. Now, is that really "freedom on the march" as President Bush constantly repeats??
Of course not.
Some people claim the "noble cause" being defending America. How in the holy FUCK was Iraq EVER a threat to America. I can not believe that people are still believing and repeating this drivel. Especially now that we have not found any WMD stock piles attributed to Saddam Hussein!! There were NO CONNECTIONS between Saddam and Osama bin Laden and YET people STILL say that we had to go into Iraq because of 9/11!!! Now these are the same people who say that we have to fight in Iraq because of all the terrorists there now. Well, sheeple these terrorists didn't pour into Iraq until Bush bombed the fuck out of the country and created a huge power vacuum that was filled by the terrorists. So, it should appear obvious to anyone with even a sliver of brain that the invasion has created more terrorists and dangers for Americans then before the invasion. These people are like ostriches who love to bury their head in the sand.
Anyway.
They are sending men and women back to Iraq who are in their 30's and 40's so i'm sure they would be able to make the cut for the military.
Certainly the Bush twins could go over there and help out daddy's "noble cause" in some capacity.
Take for example ex-NFL player Pat Tillman who dropped out of a very successful and lucrative football career to fight in Iraq. There are plenty of flag waving, chest beating, uber-patriotic young men and women who find themselves in the same position as Tillman who could and should volunteer to fight as Tillman did.
If they believe that Iraq is a "noble cause" then they should be volunteering in mass numbers.
Noble cause my ass.
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James,
The Iraqi people are just like people everywhere. They are made of flesh and blood, fall in love, care for their children and want a happy life.
Six months ago -- or whenever -- they turned out in mass, at great danger to themselves, to participate in an election.
A lot of what you say in your post is true. Overwrought, but true nonetheless. The problem now is What are the alternatives?
Saddam was America's boy turned evil dictator. I am glad he is out of power, after tormenting his country and killing perhaps 300,000 Iraqis in senseless wars, stray acts of terror, and by gassing Kurds. America had some responsibility here -- but that is now all water under the bridge.
What now? The vast majority of Iraqs 25 million people want peace, stability, and a decent government of some kind. I want them to have it. *Some* kind of government; whatever they can create. It won't be modelled on America's constitution, but it will be something that works for the Arab population.
The situation in Iraq has been handled abominably by Bush and his cronies ... but What now? It seems to me that America needs to stay for a while longer, and that more American soldiers will be killed and maimed. But the cause *is* noble. It might save the Iraqi people from the hellhole they are now in and have been in for a very, very long time.
-- Tom
Tom,
I do not disagree with you that the Iraqi's are like people everywhere and that they want a happy life. I want that for them too but I wonder if that will ever happen no matter how long we stay.
However, that being said I agree with you that we can not leave right now. I must admit though that I am now wavering on that position. If I am being honest with myself I must admit that part of me wants to "cut and run." This part of me feels that there will never be peace and stability in Iraq. That the terrorists will simply wait us out and then what have we given the Iraqi's?
So yes, I do agree with your question, "What now?" I am mearly expressing my frustrations with the way this whole thing is being handled by the current administration.
In my heart, however, I feel that we must stay. Even if my feelings of leaving are 60/40 when before it was 0/100.
It's not clear to me what the terrorists/Baathists/insurgents agenda is or would be when the American soldiers leave.
I think if we leave now, the Iraqis are left with a sizable Mafia-like organization in place in the middle of the break-up of the Iraq nation and a civil war. If we can hold on for another year, perhaps a popular composite government can arise and the terrorism will disapate and have to find a new prime target.
But I would feel better about things if Bush replaced Rumsfeld with Colin Powell. Guess that's not likely though, eh?
The question that emerges from both of your sentiments is...
How bad will things get when we leave (though I think we know) and how much of it will we prevent by "staying the course." In addition will the cost of staying the course do anything to remotely improve the condition of Iraq that will make the additional loss of our soldiers worth it? Like James, I'm one to promote finishing what I start, but even I'm having waning thoughts. The country could break into civil war any day now, and this administration is feverently lowering the bar to avoid admitting failure. They went from toting "freedom" and "democracy", to just trying to obtain "stability" and that's not even being achieved.
In my eyes we have truly deteriorated the conditions in Iraq. There is more violence, more death, more violence. Like everyone, I'm sure the Iraqis want peace, but we must seriously evaluate whether or not we are even capable of giving it to them at this point.
Great thoughts here from you both.
Tom: I would feel better with Powell then Rummy too. Rummy is certifiable.
jessica: "In my eyes we have truly deteriorated the conditions in Iraq. There is more violence, more death, more violence. Like everyone, I'm sure the Iraqis want peace, but we must seriously evaluate whether or not we are even capable of giving it to them at this point."
EXCELLENT POINT!!
James,
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